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Welcome to our blog. Here we will debate the days most serious topics and allow users the chance to discuss the topics as well. The range of topics will vary, but one thing will remain certain, the debate will rage on. Scott Lesinski is a proud conservative and Scott Jones is a proud liberal. However, the roles will switch on some topics. Stay tuned.

Scott Lesinski is currently an actuarial associate for a large human resources and insurance consulting firm in Saint Louis. He is also an avid student of US history and enjoys following current events, with an eye to their contextual relationship to the past. He is also, in fact, a former student of Mr. Scott Jones. Scott is working toward his FSA credentials, which is akin to earning a PHD in Actuarial Science.

Scott Jones is currently a high school social studies teacher at a high school in suburban St. Louis, MO. He teaches World History, AP American Government and Senior American Foreign Policy. He has a BS. Ed. (Secondary Social Studies) from the University of Missouri - Columbia and a M.A. (History) from Southeast Missouri State University. He is currently working on a dissertation in character education to earn a Ph.D. in Educational Psychology.

Tuesday, March 9, 2010

Fallujah, White Phosphorous, Birth Defects and...

Ok, I’m back. And let’s start right off right into the lion’s den.

Former President George W. Bush might need to be put on trial for war crimes.

Okay, not that extreme, but I got your attention.

News out of England places a disturbing light on the previous administration. Interestingly enough, despite claims of the liberal bias in the media, this is not being reported in America. You have to go to the BBC and Sky News to find this.

In the 2004 siege of Fallujah, American forces used white phosphorous gas to force out the Ba’ath resistance that had used the city as a center of the insurgency.

While the use of the gas against other armies in a defensive manner has been found acceptable according to the treaties that govern warfare, the use of the gas in an offensive manner or in areas of civilian inhabitants is a war crime under these same treaties, all of which have been signed by an American President and ratified by the United States Senate.

After all, isn’t the use of biological and chemical weapons against civilians one of the major justifications of the war in to remove Saddam Hussein in the first place?

The United States knew the city was inhabited by civilians and used white phosphorous in an attempt to remove the insurgents. The Defense Department admitted to this in 2005.

It is now the real problems are occurring and America should be ashamed of what its Cowboy President might have either ordered or allowed to happen.

The BBC and Sky News report the number of children born with birth defects related to phosphorous poisoning is skyrocketing in the city just to the south of Baghdad.

In the first half of 2007, close to 2,500 babies were born with some abnormal defect, which is an increase of 1,000% increase over the years directly before the bombing. Over the past three years, approximately 400 babies have been born with extreme deformities, which include deformities that many of us thought were only possible in science fiction movies.

One doctor cited by these news organizations claims that it would be possible to expect 2-3 extreme cases per year. Another doctor said it wasn’t unusual for him to now see 2-3 such cases per day.

There have, however, been no studies to link the birth defects to the phosphorous bombing. Right now, all we have is a link between known extreme birth defects from phosphorous poisoning and the same type of extreme birth defects being seen now in Fallujah. The people in Fallujah are convinced the birth defects are directly related to the American attack.

We need to find out the truth. It is possible that the insurgents did this as they left the city. It is possible American bombs did this. It is possible that Fallujah has another toxic chemical present that has not been detected up to this point. It is possible…

Obviously we need to find out what happened. Why is America so quiet on this? What does the Defense Department doing to investigate this? Does President Obama know more than he has said (which is nothing)? Did President Bush and/or Vice President Cheney know about any of this or possibly ordered the attack? Has a major cover-up occurred?

If there is something that liberals and conservatives agree on, it is the need for openness in our limited government federal system. Yet, cover-ups are still the norm instead of the exception.

I understand that President Obama has not wanted to launch investigations into the actions of the previous administration because he wants to move forward. However, there are some things that need investigated. Does President Obama not want to investigate the previous administration because he doesn’t want his administration investigated in the future?

Secrets lead to conspiracy. Conspiracy leads to mistrust of our government.

Let’s find out what happened.

If America is innocent, then we can answer our critics with the truth even if they don’t want to believe it.

If America is guilty, let us face it, apologize and work to make things as right as we can with our tremendous international, financial and technological abilities.

This is the only way to be the shining city on the hill for the world to follow.


  1. Welcome back man!

    According to the Chemical Weapons Convention Schedule of Chemicals phosphorus isn't a toxic chemical or precursor to a toxic chemical so it's going to be hard to bring war crimes against anyone. From the reading I've done it doesn't seem like it's anything illegal.

    I for one pretty much hate conspiracies. It's pretty easy to come up with one because you're tracing your steps backwards so you can come up with any number of situations that lead to your conclusion.

  2. I don't really know anything about this. But if phosphorous isn't a toxic or precursor to a toxic chemical then does this matter?