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Scott Lesinski is currently an actuarial associate for a large human resources and insurance consulting firm in Saint Louis. He is also an avid student of US history and enjoys following current events, with an eye to their contextual relationship to the past. He is also, in fact, a former student of Mr. Scott Jones. Scott is working toward his FSA credentials, which is akin to earning a PHD in Actuarial Science.

Scott Jones is currently a high school social studies teacher at a high school in suburban St. Louis, MO. He teaches World History, AP American Government and Senior American Foreign Policy. He has a BS. Ed. (Secondary Social Studies) from the University of Missouri - Columbia and a M.A. (History) from Southeast Missouri State University. He is currently working on a dissertation in character education to earn a Ph.D. in Educational Psychology.

Wednesday, July 1, 2009

Cap and Trade, National Healthcare, and Obama’s Power Grabs

Well, I’m back from Europe. The trip was excellent and provided a lot of insight into World War II and Cold War history. Since it has been a while since I’ve posted anything, I figured some updates and a more general discussion forum would be a good way to get us through the upcoming days of summer.

Let me begin with Cap and Trade. If you didn’t know, the House of Representatives passed the Waxman Markey Cap and Trade bill on Friday night.

The bill on which they voted was not written yet at the time of the vote. A 300 page amendment to “the bill” was dropped in the hopper at 3:40am on Friday.

I know it doesn’t really mean much, but I’ll throw it out there…Obama himself said that all bills would be posted on one of his websites for 5 days before any votes would happen. This one wasn’t completely written yet before the House voted on it and passed it.

Remember the problems we had regarding the so-called stimulus bill that nobody read? Well at least that bill was completely WRITTEN when it was voted on.

Here is an excerpt from testimony by Ben Lieberman of the Heritage Foundation regarding the costs of this bill:

“What are those costs? According to the analysis we conducted at The Heritage Foundation, which is attached to my written statement, the higher energy costs kick in as soon as the bill's provisions take effect in 2012. For a household of four, energy costs go up $436 that year, and they eventually reach $1,241 in 2035 and average $829 annually over that span. Electricity costs go up 90 percent by 2035, gasoline by 58 percent, and natural gas by 55 percent by 2035. The cumulative higher energy costs for a family of four by then will be nearly $20,000.
But direct energy costs are only part of the consumer impact. Nearly everything goes up, since higher energy costs raise production costs. If you look at the total cost of Waxman-Markey, it works out to an average of $2,979 annually from 2012-2035 for a household of four. By 2035 alone, the total cost is over $4,600.
Beyond the cost impact on individuals and households, Waxman-Markey also affects employment, and especially employment in the manufacturing sector. We estimate job losses averaging 1,145,000 at any given time from 2012-2035. And note that those are net job losses, after the much-hyped green jobs are taken into account. Some of the lost jobs will be destroyed entirely, while others will be outsourced to nations like China and India that have repeatedly stated that they'll never hamper their own economic growth with energy-cost boosting global warming measures like Waxman-Markey.”

He goes on to detail the discussion in the bill where it acknowledges the fact that this bill WILL necessarily decrease the purchasing power of consumers. There is a section of this bill that discusses redistribution of wealth from richer Americans and direct depositing the money into the bank accounts of poorer Americans.

This is not about protecting the environment. It is about power, taxation, and control of our freedoms. I already have sent Claire McCaskill an email pleading with her to oppose the bill. I urge you all to do the same. We have to stop Cap and Trade for the sake of our freedoms and economy. Nobody stands to benefit from Cap and Trade, except maybe a few guys on Wallstreet who will be responsible for doing the carbon trades, and of course, Barack Obama, who will oversee an even larger economic crisis than he already has.

Healthcare is next.

We have already discussed heavily the merits of healthcare as a right. I don’t want to do that again. What I want to talk about here is an alternative to the government so-called “public option”.

First thing here folks, if this public option is so good for all of us, please ask your senators and representatives if they will be opting out of their government healthcare plans to join up on the plan they will author for us.

I know the answer is no, in fact, in the bill authored by Ted Kennedy, there is an exemption for congressmen from the public option. If their plan is not good enough for them, neither is it good enough for us.

On the way home from the trip to Europe, I read a very good book by Sally Pipes (president and CEO of the Pacific Research Institute) called The Top Ten Myths of American Healthcare. It is a very good summary of all the propaganda being put out by Obama and other liberals about the American healthcare system. There is too much there to list everything outright, but something I’d like to mention is the constant quote on the number of folks without healthcare.

45.7 million is the number commonly quoted. Unfortunately, it is very misleading, as this number is transitional. It measures the number of people without health insurance on a given day. It does not account for folks moving between jobs. Nor, does it account for:

The 28 million uninsured who earn more that $50,000 annually (not really all that poor).
The 10 million who are not US citizens.
The 14 million who already qualify for SCHIP, Medicare, and Medicaid, but choose not to enroll in those programs. I know that adds to more than 46 million, but there is some overlap in those numbers.

The real estimate for the number of chronically uninsured is around 8 million.

The way to fix our system is not by nationalizing the system, but rather, injecting a bit of competition.

Like I’ve said before folks, government run means government rationed. When the decisions for your health are taken out of your hands, freedom is lost. I urge you to pick up the book for yourself and have a read. Its probably available at the library for free. But if you truly intend to be intellectually honest, you ought to read this book and listen to the arguments made by someone who is really in the know regarding this type of policy.


  1. The Waxman Cap & Trade is a total sham, how can you pass legislative that exceeds 300+ pages & it still is not finished when it is voted on the floor. This bill is being pushed as a way to help usher in this new era of so-called “green jobs”. However, frankly Americans could care less about ''green'' affixed to what they desperately need, people just want aJ.O.B. period. Cap & Trade’s intent aims at putting a price tag on companies to produce lesser carbon emissions. From which companies will need to find alternate renewable resources & thus the emergence of “green jobs” to supply this demand. Sadly, in theory, Cap & Trade is a beautiful thing however, it evolves into a game of paper pushing legislation towards taxation & more corporate bureaucracy. At the end of the day companies should not be forced to go green, take for example the makers of Sun Chips are beginning to use solar energy to power most of their factories

  2. I agree that it should be illegal to vote on a bill that isn't written. That is very scandalist and is giving more power to the government than they should ever have. We the people are suppose to have freedom and rights, but if you make us vote, then write the bill then we are actually wasting time voting because the government is going to write whatever benefits them not the people.

  3. I agree with Tricia, why should we take the time to vote if the government is going to do whatever they want not matter what. It definitly should be illegal to vote on a bill that has not been written. Freedom and rights, I think these things are getting slimmer and slimmer for all of us. Who do we need to thank for that? I think we all know who is responsible.